The Wine Lover Meltdown that Changed the Wine World Forever

By Brian Lemay 100 comments


Outside of wine snobs, I think we can all
agree that wine snobs are just the worst. This is not because virtually every study
ever conducted into the field of wine tasting as a whole has concluded that it’s ridiculously
easy to convince even the top sommeliers that $5 boxed white wine is the finest red wine
ever bottled. Nor is it because wines they would happily
sacrifice their first born to have a glass of and would have otherwise raved about, when
told the glass contains a variety of some cheap wine they are to identify, are more
than likely to claim it tastes akin to horse piss. No, the fact that human psychology is so big
a part of the whole wine mythos (and how we perceive tastes and smells) isn’t our problem
here; humans are gonna human, after all, and everybody likes what they like, with human
psychology often playing a big role. Who are we to judge? No, the real problem is a rather vocal subset
of wine connoisseurs who are astoundingly snooty about the whole thing, making all the
rest of us wine lovers look bad in the process. This level of snobbishness is particularly
rich given that what some of them have spent thousands of hours of their precious time
on Earth doing is nothing more than becoming an expert on grape juice- you know, the stuff
(sans alcohol) that your 2 year old drinks at $3 a gallon… You might as well get highfalutin about your
magnificent fuzzy sock collection. (Which, to be fair, is fabulously comfy I’m
sure.) Perhaps nothing sums all this up better than
the so-called “Judgement of Paris”- an event that would change the wine world forever
(for the better). Besides the more productive outcomes, the
event saw some of the top pearl-clutching French wine snobs throw a near year-long temper
tantrum because they accidentally revealed that in a blind taste test they not only largely
misidentified the American wine from the supposedly far superior French wine, but that they strongly
preferred the American adult grape juice… The origins of the Judgement of Paris can
be traced to a well meaning promoter of French wine and owner of a wine store in Paris, Steven
Spurrier. Spurrier organized the event with the hopes
of highlighting that the quality of wine coming from California at the time wasn’t nearly
as bad as its reputation then held. He also hoped in the process to drum up some
additional business for his Parisian wine shop in highlighting the many French wines
that could be purchased there. Naturally, he, along with pretty much everyone
else in the world, assumed the French wines would win the contest pretty handily. In organizing the event, Spurrier scouted
what he felt were the finest wines currently produced in California and pitted them, deathmatch
style, against their closest French equivalent. To judge the competition, Spurrier tracked
down some of France’s top wine experts, including the then editor of The French Wine
Review, Odette Kahn, as well as several professional sommeliers (the elite of the elite of wine
tasters) of the French persuasion. All in all Spurrier was able to assemble a
veritable dream team of wine-sniffing talent consisting of nine of the best palates in
the business. To round out the numbers, Spurrier himself
took part, as did American wine connoisseur Patricia Gallagher. Realising that accusations of bias would inevitably
be levied against him if French wines cleaned house at the event, Spurrier opted to make
the event a blind tasting and told his fellow judges to simply judge each wine on its own
merits, not by any specific scale. Something his judges had no problem with. At first. Although Spurrier attempted to publicise the
competition as widely as he could, sending invites to most every major media outlet he
could think of, the whole thing was seen as being such a nonstory that only a single journalist
turned up to cover the event- TIME magazine’s George M. Taber. Taber would later state he only showed up
as a favour to Spurrier and, like most everyone else, assumed that the French wines would
win hands down, which would likely see his article tantamount in interest to one titled
“Water is wet”. Taber (who, unlike the judges, knew which
wines were which ahead of time) quickly changed his mind though when he saw French restaurateur
and chef Raymond Oliver say to himself “Ah, back to France” while sampling a Napa Valley
chardonnay… As Taber would later recount in an interview
with NPR, “I thought, hey, maybe I got a story here.” And oh boy did he have a story, with the subsequent
piece he penned being called “the most significant news story ever written about wine.” Why? Almost every judge placed at least one American
wine above it’s French counterpart while several, including a later mortified Kahn,
deemed an American wine, both red and white, to be the best overall. In fact, the American wines as a group absolutely
dominated the event, 1992 Olympic Basketball Dream Team style. While this still might seem like a nonstory
today, it’s important to understand the context here. Again, at this point in history, it was generally
assumed by pretty much every wine expert that French wine was vastly superior to all other
wines in the world for a variety of reasons, including things like soil, weather, secret
methods passed down over the centuries known only by French wine makers, etc. As Taber would later comment on the results,
“It turned out to be the most important event, because it broke the myth that only
in France could you make great wine. It opened the door for this phenomenon today
of the globalization of wine.” Wine expert and author David White further
chimed in, “The 1976 judgment totally changed the game. [The results] gave winemakers everywhere a
reason to believe that they too could take on the greatest wines in the world.” Not long after this event, the creation of
new wine vineyards across the world absolutely exploded. On top of this, according to the founder of
the award winning wine brand Stag’s Leap, Warren Winiarski, wine makers also began more
openly sharing information about their methods with others in the field. What this all revealed was that the French
wine makers had fallen well behind the times in a lot of areas owing to keeping to various
traditions and classical ways of doing things, whereas newer vineyard owners had been more
open to embracing improved methods and technologies. Thus, thanks to this event, Winiarski states,
“The wines of the world are better, the wines of France are better.” Going back to the Judgement of Paris, upon
hearing the results, a furious Odette Kahn tried and failed to get her ballot back, reportedly
desperate to stop anyone from finding out how she had ranked the wines, fearing it would
ruin her considerable reputation in the wine world. When her efforts failed, she resorted to slandering
Spurrier and claiming that the event, judged near exclusively by French wine experts, in
France, put on by a guy who at the time only sold (and spent his life championing) French
wines had been rigged against French wine… Kahn, and others, also saw to it that Spurrier
was temporarily ostracized from the French wine community, initially making it difficult
for him to stock the shelves of his wine shop as well as banning him from the prestigious
French wine tasting tour for a year. After that year he still occasionally had
trouble acquiring certain wines, such as finding himself banned from the Domaine Ramonet-Prudhon
vineyard when he went there to make a purchase over a year later. (Not all was lost for Spurrier, however. He would later go on to win a variety of awards
in the wine industry, including one for, ironically, “his services to French wine.”) But before all this, the French media responded
by effectively burying the story of the Judgement of Paris. In fact, among the scant mentions of it in
French papers from the time, some questioned whether the event had actually happened. One that did acknowledge it simply argued
that the experiment was merely an example of “the silliness that can occur at blind
tastings”, which, to be fair, that’s a valid point, though the overarching result
of the event still stood- while exact results may vary from test to test, French wines weren’t
in a class of their own anymore. That said, 30 years later Spurrier organised
yet another blind tasting very much like the first to see if the results would change,
but, again, this resulted in American wines winning top honors. This time, however, seemingly nobody was greatly
surprised, nor upset. Turns out you can make great wine in a variety
of regions in the world, not just on France.

100 Comments

Rapscallion2009

May 5, 2019, 8:34 pm Reply

So many experts are like this, from wine expects to car road testers. French wine, German cars. It's all reverence. There is little objective truth in their opinions.

Alexei Helmbock

May 5, 2019, 1:39 am Reply

It's actually significantly easier to make a good-tasting wine in California (and Chile and Australia, etc.), because the growing season is longer and more regular, whereas in many of the growing regions of France, the weather is more variable. One of the key ingredients in a "good" wine is sunlight, which cause the grapes to develop sugars, which then get converted to alcohol. In France, the years when it's cloudy a lot result in "bad years" for wine; but in California (and several other wine regions), it's never NOT sunny during the growing season, insuring against "bad years." The grape is originally thought to come from the Near East — another sunny region — and not more cloudy Northern regions like France. These basic facts make the "Judgement of Paris" results much less surprising, because French wines come with a non-trivial handicap.

TlalocW

May 5, 2019, 5:10 am Reply

Sommeliers – and their counterparts in coffee culture, craft beer culture, etc. – are the biggest wastes of space. Would you listen to anyone else tell you how you should get your steak prepared, what toppings you should get on your pizza, etc? Maybe if they're making a friendly recommendation like, "Hey, you should really try <insert food and its special preparation here>." Then, yeah, if it sounds good try it, but if you don't like it, don't take any shit from anyone – especially these wine-tasting assholes. And, hey, if there's a traditional way of preparing something, great. Try food the way the locals have it for the cultural experience. But we all have our individual tastes. Why should you listen to someone with no real life skills as well as having it proved they also have no real skills in his/her chosen profession? Sometimes I want a steak cooked medium-rare, and other times I might want the damn thing charred, and I'm going to drink it with a goddamn Pepsi if I want, and if some snooty arse wants to poo-poo that, I'm throwing him into a wall.

I don't even drink alcohol or coffee, but something about this shit gets me riled up. 🙂

TlalocW

May 5, 2019, 5:16 am Reply

Humor writer Dave Barry took the piss out of these assholes way back in 1985. Worth a read. https://www.miamiherald.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/dave-barry/article1936835.html

Spencer Reynolds

May 5, 2019, 5:20 pm Reply

How can you do a video on this subject and not mention the movie Bottle Shock?

Herm Ask

May 5, 2019, 5:34 pm Reply

Man-Dog-Communication has to improve. Then I'd take the dog's judgement and pass it as my own.

JETZcorp

May 5, 2019, 7:17 pm Reply

Watching this from a vineyard in Oregon.

Neat.

Reggie Benes

May 5, 2019, 8:42 pm Reply

I prefer a glass of properly aged Thunderbird, although a chilled MD 20/20 Dragon Fruit is very pleasing with it's hint of a flowery aroma preparing the palette for an unfettered delight. Pouring one for myself while lightly sprinkling terra firma to honor homies passed is a religious experience.

Eric J

May 5, 2019, 1:21 am Reply

Interesting, it might be nice to see a video that delves somewhat into the Americanization of wine culture and it's affects around the world. While I am not a wine snob, I barely drink the stuff, I do read a lot. It seems, to me, the assembly line production of wines kind of ushered in by Robert Parker, Wine Spectator, the Mondavi's and to some extend Michel Rolland have not been all that good a development. Although I don't want to vilify Mr. Rolland, as one very irritated retired wine critic in Italy once angrily said to me when I asked him about "Mondo Vino", "Michel is just doing what his customers ask him to do", which, is actually a good point, still, he helps wineries get their wines to Robert Parker's standards (essentially homogenizing, and eliminating Terroir, in wine production around the world). My point, one would expect that by eliminating terroir, wine critics are even larger frauds now due to the fact that all wines in their classes generally have a very similar taste. Again, I don't know this first hand, I don't drink enough wine to speak to that, but if everyone is making wines the same way to please Robert Parker's palette it would seem the taste profile would narrow some… or maybe that's just the old world vinter's slander and sour grapes with Americanized wines…. ah… see it took me a long way to get to that pun but I did it!!!

GODLESS101

May 5, 2019, 10:31 am Reply

That moment when you realize this guy isn't Vsauce.

Dudley J Garidel Jr

May 5, 2019, 2:06 pm Reply

Ahhh, the French! As one of French descent, with an ancestral home in France, I believe I have the right to say their most significant achievement to date is the ability to take snobbishness to new heights. Hopefully they'll grow up one day… 😉 Semper Fidelis!

Nathaniel Turner

May 5, 2019, 6:13 pm Reply

…absolutely..Dominated..
Love it😀

3Authoress

May 5, 2019, 9:07 pm Reply

Wasn’t this event made into a movie called “Bottle Shock”?

Morbius907

May 5, 2019, 2:15 am Reply

There is a movie based on this tasting called Bottle Shock

Alexandre Martins

May 5, 2019, 6:57 pm Reply

One of the major reasons for the success of the American wines was controlled production. With mechanized production (including pressing, filtering and bottle turning) making the whole process far more uniform than the mostly artisan French production, a more quality consistent result was inevitably obtained, thus ensuring overall superiority, even when some of the artisan wines might be far superior. And for anyone who holds any delusions about handicraft methods being superior to industrial ones… well… you're just in denial. Whenever a producer aligns industrial methods with high quality controls, the result is inevitably superior.
I WOULD though be VERY interested in tasting original French wine (pre-1900s plague) and seeing whether a Chateau Lafitte was really all they say it was. Otherwise, the grapes French use this day are mere offshoots of vines grown in the Americas, so we don't really have the original grapes French wines owe their reputation from.

Tom Fisher

May 5, 2019, 7:44 pm Reply

Earth shaking report you twit.

Donnie Spence

May 5, 2019, 10:11 pm Reply

There's a movie about this with Alan Rickman called Bottle Shock if anyone is interested in learning this in a more exaggerated and Hollywood way

Crimson Behelit

May 5, 2019, 10:31 pm Reply

0:07 Citation needed.

Phil Swaim

May 5, 2019, 1:25 am Reply

Its usually the higher alchohol content wines that win too. And cali loves to have high alcohol content

cptnmus

May 5, 2019, 1:40 pm Reply

Why is sensible vsauce Michael here explaining wine to me and why am i enjoying it

ZoeAlleyne

May 5, 2019, 6:53 am Reply

I've never really liked wine and there were people who would literally call me uncultured for it. I am always willing to try things and I tried a lot of wine and didn't like it. I don't really like the taste of alcohol and have never been a big drinker. I literally once had someone tell me it was indicative of the cheap area I grew up in.

Anyway, years later I found that I like moscato. Not all, but a lot of moscato and it doesn't bother me how much it is. One of the ones I like happens to be pretty cheap, but I like it. And without even trying it, but hearing the brand and knowing it was cheap someone said "oh wow, I'd rather drink horse pizz" and laughed like they were somehow elegant or advanced.

Like if you want to spend hundreds of dollars on wine I'm not going to judge. I have spent hundreds of dollars on dice for D&D, I'm in no position to judge anyone.

But why go out of your way to be miserable about the things other people do or don't like? You don't seem fancy, you seem like a hairy dick.

ZoeAlleyne

May 5, 2019, 7:01 am Reply

"If you ask me, the bouquet is a little too robust for a Merlot. But then again, I'm partial to the softer California grape." -Odette Kahn

MylesHSG

May 5, 2019, 1:59 pm Reply

I knew an old lady that used to refill an expensive bottle of gin with the cheapest supermarket stuff, no one ever knew

Dispersado

May 5, 2019, 2:26 am Reply

It seems you've never heard the story of Pink Catawba? American winemakers have been showing up the french far earlier than the 1970's.

Mark

May 5, 2019, 1:14 pm Reply

Ummmm no, this guy gets half of the story just wrong. He needs to go back and read up on the actual facts of what happened.

Peter Gray

May 5, 2019, 7:59 pm Reply

The first author Karl Smallwood has his own channel. It is amazing.

David Stevens

May 5, 2019, 2:57 pm Reply

Italian and Spanish wines are awesome.

wikiwikiwee1

May 5, 2019, 2:03 am Reply

America is so much bigger than France, therefore it makes sense that american wine can be better, a bigger variety of soils and climates.

wazza33racer

May 5, 2019, 9:16 am Reply

Its like a billionaire globalist who lauds and swoons for open borders ………..so there is cheaper labor to employ in their coffee sweatshops…………..despite beheadings,rapes and violent extremists sucking up welfare and conducting terrorism.

Tim Knapper

May 5, 2019, 7:17 pm Reply

I drink the best wine ever! It is called beer.

bushyconn

May 5, 2019, 4:25 am Reply

And, of course, there are other countries producing great wines, too. Australia, , Italy, New Zealand, Any country in South America, even UK, and possibly , more!!

1337fraggzb00N

May 5, 2019, 12:45 pm Reply

I am a quite simple guy with that: when the wine tastes good, I dare to like it more than the wine that tastes not good, no matter if that wine is made from roadkill.
Most of that gourmet stuff is just jerking off in public and telling everyone about it.

Shawn Hicks

May 5, 2019, 5:16 am Reply

"it's also not because wines they would happily sacrifice their first born to have a glass of and otherwise would rave about when told it contains some cheap wine are more than likely to claim it tastes like horse piss"
The syntax of this sentence is going to give me nightmares.

kukumarro

May 5, 2019, 11:16 am Reply

It's the same with the restaurants. Most people assume that French cuisine is the finest in the world, I suspect that because of similar reasons. The top 50 restaurants list of 2018 however showed that the best restaurant in the world is in Italy, the second one in Spain and only the third was in France. France had 2 restaurants in the top 10, the same number as Peru, while Spain had 3.

Kyle Towers

May 5, 2019, 10:44 pm Reply

Overlooking the exaggerated claims, one of the best Cabernet sauvignon's I ever had was a Chilean that I bought for $9 about 30 yrs ago.

Dennis Hunt

May 5, 2019, 4:56 pm Reply

I was in France in 2006, I went into a bottle shop and saw a sign advertising "French wine Australian style", Fair Bloody Dinkum, not American or any other country.

Roger Dottin

May 5, 2019, 7:30 pm Reply

I never heard this story. Absolutely awesome.

Hey You

May 5, 2019, 2:32 am Reply

Don’t people make wine in prisons?

Odysseus Rex

May 5, 2019, 3:23 am Reply

Interesting? I've got that one bookmarked!

Jesse Lindsey

May 5, 2019, 5:10 am Reply

Holy christ, you're the first youtuber I've seen who can actually pull off the bald-and-beard look.

Neil Deep

May 5, 2019, 2:01 pm Reply

Only poor people (& those that don’t appreciate science) will say that worrying about the small details in the production of products like wine, cheese, & now cannabis is “snobby.”

No. Enthusiasts just care about the details. Which is one of the reasons why they are more successful in life & can afford to these things.

the beard

May 5, 2019, 9:57 am Reply

To whine about wine is a waste of one's time.

bradwatson7324

May 5, 2019, 8:13 pm Reply

I'd like to see a similar competition between Italian and American pizza. The one time I had pizza in Italy I was not impressed.

frankenzion0001

May 5, 2019, 6:03 pm Reply

Die hard wine fans and connoisseurs should've been grateful for that event, because in reality, it helped to improve the industry as a whole, instead of letting it continue to stagnate under the centuries-old ways of winemaking and the belief, that ONLY the French could make good wine.

n3Cr0ManCeD

May 5, 2019, 11:05 pm Reply

I'd dare to say that the French are the same way with cuisine. Sure the French have great food but if you listen to them every other country's cuisine is crap. Like wine, great food is in the ingredients, the techniques and the attention the cook/chef gives it.

I've traveled a bit and had great and terrible meals in many countries and yes, even France.

Stacy Smith

May 5, 2019, 9:52 am Reply

Well, not to sound like a snob but the Napa Valley does produce the best wines of the world.

Stacy Smith

May 5, 2019, 9:56 am Reply

It WAS "1992 dream team style"! If you excluded the Napa Valley the rest of California is pretty mundane or the rest of the U.S. for that matter. It's kind of unfair.

Grip Side

May 5, 2019, 4:08 pm Reply

Don’t you dare judge my fuzzy sock collection!

Kobil Shakur

May 5, 2019, 10:58 am Reply

All the more reason I don’t have to be ashamed liking boxed wine

Jimmy M

May 5, 2019, 5:57 pm Reply

It has to be said. USA #1, USA #1!

Daxaaar The Bot

May 5, 2019, 3:01 pm Reply

Drink your nice bottle first, then the next 2 can be the box wine.

Michael Brennan

May 5, 2019, 11:18 pm Reply

I’m a super taster. All wines (beer too) taster like vinegar or rubbing alcohol. Coffee and most green vegetables are bad too.

ralife11379

May 5, 2019, 4:56 am Reply

There are connoisseurs and then there are snobs. connoisseurs love all versions of the thing they love but understand what to look for if you want something specific out of the thing they love. They will recommend stuff depending on the person, what there looking for and there mood. A snob on the other hand will only recommend one specific version of the thing they love because that version is "the best" no matter who you are and if you don't think so your an ignorant pleb.

Tiger Princess

May 5, 2019, 6:03 am Reply

My late father-in-law was such a wine snob. You must drink this type of wine with this kind of food. It has to be French & really expensive to be good. Me, I drink what I like no matter where it came from and/or what I'm eating. Why would I drink a type of wine I hate just because of the food I'm having for dinner? To quote my late father-in-law "That's ridiculous! " If he were still with us, he would probably say the same thing about your video & the taste tests. 😆

Tim Barry

May 5, 2019, 12:18 pm Reply

So far 268 snobs disliked this video. Lol

Ideoform Sun

May 5, 2019, 2:27 pm Reply

France has grown wine in the same places for centuries. As they get older farm soils become depleted of minerals and nutrients that chemical fertilizers don't replace. That's why some of the best crops are grown in volcanic soils. New minerals.
If you return compost and manures to the soil this would slow down the losses.
Mono crops should be rotated and use companion planting.
I like organic wine with no added sulfate. Sulfate gives me a headache.
Also, the process of making wine concentrates any pesticide residues left on the crops, and certain pesticides can kill off the natural microbes that ferment the wine.
I wish sulfates weren't required to be added.
I once made a "wine" substitute by mixing organic vodka, which needs no preservatives, and organic grape juice. Interestingly, It actually tasted just like wine.
Everyone talks about flavor, but the best ingredients make a big difference. Also, how it is made, and if there are any contaminants that you can't taste, like metals. These aspects could also be used to judge a wine product.

O RP

May 5, 2019, 2:53 pm Reply

Grape juice plus 😉

Paul Stafford

May 5, 2019, 5:29 pm Reply

I like the bottle water taste tests that Penn and Teller did…. 😀

JYZProductions

May 5, 2019, 9:35 pm Reply

placebo, marketing and in France's case favoring their own kind play a major role. Just because something won a ton of awards doesn't mean you'll like it is what it comes down to. My friend loves smirnoff vodka so i went out and bought the cheapest bottle i could and he did not know the difference. He bought smirnoff because it was "the best" and it was the marketing yet this domestic type was so similar i didn't understand why he kept buying it.

Gary Cooper

Jun 6, 2019, 4:41 am Reply

In one well-publicized taste test, blindfolded wine experts couldn’t tell red wine from white wine.

Rasmus Wittsell

Jun 6, 2019, 6:43 am Reply

Some time in the 1980-s a Swedish HiFi-enthusiast's magazine published a blind test for speaker cables. There were all types from the basic grey plastic 2-copper wire to exklusive gold or platinum plated wire embeded in special conductive gel materials. The price ranged from the equivalent of 20 cents per meter up to 20-25 dollars per meter. A normal white lamp cord was also included. Three persons did the blind test, one of the editors together with two supposedly highly competent audiophiles. They graded quality and fidelity of sound transmission and if the sound was muffled. They also got to guess which cable type/brand they were rating. The result completely discredited this particular area of audiophilia, as the lamp cord scored highest all around, transmitting a clear sound and exhibiting no muffling at all. The cost of the lamp cable was like 30 cents per meter. Now this was long ago and I have long since lost the article, so the exact details are a bit fuzzy. But the general context is genuine. The simplest, most widely available cord got the best score.

Walter K Bauer

Jun 6, 2019, 9:55 am Reply

What was the French answer for,
"It's to tart!" ?
Why add Glycerol (anitfreeze)
I was in Germany, where French wines were banned.
It's still in wines sold in the US.

John Weck

Jun 6, 2019, 10:05 am Reply

People always make a fuss about their addictions. 🙂

Todd Mikosh

Jun 6, 2019, 1:58 pm Reply

I love how Simon fearlessly roasts the loftiest of endeavors and then proceeds to report on them with proper respect.

TitanicTom1912

Jun 6, 2019, 9:38 pm Reply

I drink wines I enjoy, not those which other people say I should enjoy if I want to consider myself a remotely civilized human being.

Gary Bea

Jun 6, 2019, 10:06 pm Reply

Even New Zealand wines are better than French ones. I wouldn't be surprised if France isn't even rated in the top ten.

Glen Melancon

Jun 6, 2019, 10:12 pm Reply

When it comes to wine, some consumers still equate quality with price. But at the 28th Annual International Eastern Wine Competition, a $1.99 bottle of California Wine, the 2002 Charles Shaw Shiraz, beat out 2,300 wines to win a prestigious double gold medal.

jorge6207

Jun 6, 2019, 10:37 pm Reply

Portugal, amused, sips a bit of real wine. 'Let them chase their own tails', it says, 'No one needs to know".

San Bruno Beacon

Jun 6, 2019, 12:34 am Reply

Wine, if It's the right price and tastes good, drink it.

Tarquin The Rotter

Jun 6, 2019, 2:46 am Reply

America … FUCK YEAH! 🙂

Trump 2020!

Charlie Ricker

Jun 6, 2019, 3:09 am Reply

I like mango. Especially dried sliced mango. Mmm. Now that is taste. I dunno about this poison you all are drinking.

TheCrusaderRabbits

Jun 6, 2019, 4:39 am Reply

Little known fact. California grapes came from France. After a frost destroyed all the grapes in France, wine makers imported grapes from California back into France.

Emmie M

Jun 6, 2019, 4:49 am Reply

He seems dead inside on this episode…

Violent2aShadow

Jun 6, 2019, 6:51 am Reply

Who knew that France was full of….sour grapes?

Niall Emslie

Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 am Reply

Water is not wet.

Bart van Leeuwen

Jun 6, 2019, 12:12 pm Reply

Don't forget Aussie wines!!!!
South West WA and Perth surrounds, Adelaide And the Barossa Valley Australia, to name a few…..")

Christian Rodier

Jun 6, 2019, 3:12 pm Reply

Wow that is great

Martin D

Jun 6, 2019, 5:45 pm Reply

Oregon wine 👍

Doctor Lolchicken

Jun 6, 2019, 7:12 pm Reply

When England joined the EU and the price of European wine dropped through the floor, my dad started buying 3 litre bottles of cheap German white wine. I wasn’t a wine snob – I don’t even like wine much – but I was dismayed that he would buy such cheap crap. Until I tried it. I liked it far more than any American or European wine I’d had before. From then until now, whenever I have white wine – never mind the supposed quality – I always compare it to the cheap German table wine. And I haven’t had anything I liked more.

SunriseLAW

Jun 6, 2019, 8:27 pm Reply

1:08 grape juice at $3 per gallon ? Real grape juice generally costs a lot more than that, even frozen concentrate. There are grape flavored juice drinks that are $3 per gallon.

TakoCorp

Jun 6, 2019, 8:40 pm Reply

French people are such DORKS hahahahaha

Jim Krause

Jun 6, 2019, 3:33 am Reply

Well then…if great wines can be made anywhere in the world, there is hope for (gasp!) Kansas! Yes, there are vineyards close to Lawrence, Kansas.

Foxie Girl Games

Jun 6, 2019, 7:39 am Reply

I wish my meltdown does something but it doesn't

masterred82

Jun 6, 2019, 8:55 am Reply

You must be pretty dumb not to know the difference between a box of white wine and a bottle of red

FannyPackMan100

Jun 6, 2019, 12:56 am Reply

So nobody thought highly of Italy's wines before this? At all?

Steven Banks

Jun 6, 2019, 2:36 am Reply

"I think we can all agree that snobs are the worst." Ah, those famous snobs, Atilla, AdolphStalin, Mao, Idi.

ohevshalomel

Jun 6, 2019, 8:07 am Reply

A British man relishes a French defeat; if it’s at the hands of Americans, so be it.

Melvyn Gingell

Jun 6, 2019, 12:31 pm Reply

Sniff the glass , utter a few fancy words ! Total bollocks !!

MAGGOT VOMIT

Jun 6, 2019, 1:03 am Reply

30 yrs ago, I partook in the consumption of 3-Bottles of "Mad Dog 20/20". It was the best Drunk, I've ever pulled. This included feeling Great the next Morning, remembering the whole night and there was no Fat Britch in my bed.

rick grimes

Jun 6, 2019, 10:17 pm Reply

I love gut rot whiskey lol

SchmokinJoe

Jun 6, 2019, 3:16 am Reply

MMNWAAAHAAA the French.. gasp Champagne has always been celebrudduh furh its excellence, indignant tone THERE IS A CALIFORNIA CHAMPAGNE by Paul Masson… gasp inspired by that same French excellence… it's fermmunnduh indduh boddl and like the best… gasp French champagne, it's vintage dated, so Paul Masson/ CUT

byron p

Jun 6, 2019, 11:19 am Reply

I always liked the fact that Rumpole (of the Bailey) liked his cheap plonk (a claret of some sort), and was quite happy with it.

Bundang Bear

Jun 6, 2019, 4:03 pm Reply

Simon, where you get grape juice for $3 a gallon?

Kevin Lucey

Jul 7, 2019, 4:15 am Reply

Napa valley represent

Andrew Ray

Jul 7, 2019, 3:31 pm Reply

reminds me of game reviewers who can't get past the territorial, or Motor journalist who get giving holidays to road test cars. you maybe in the industry but it doesn't mean you have knowledge of it. Frauds….

Pfisiar22

Jul 7, 2019, 9:51 pm Reply

Another fun wine fact french whine snobs don't want you to know: the french grape, as it exists now, is the result of a breeding effort in the mid 19th century carried out to save the french grape from a pestilence. Basically all french wines now are made from grapes that descend from grapes created in Missouri.

Joe Mills

Jul 7, 2019, 4:22 am Reply

So those times as a teen drinking Buckfast in a field with my mates wasn't cultural enrichment?

RichartEgli

Jul 7, 2019, 10:11 am Reply

you all should look the film about RUDY KURNIAWAN.

murraystewartj

Aug 8, 2019, 5:30 pm Reply

Wine of any kind doesn't agree with me – I'll stick with beer. Sadly, the growth of smaller craft breweries has resulted in the same snobbishness. Many of their products are great, but I can't stand the superior attitude and bullshit that some brewers and their customers affect, just like the winos and the boutique caffeine addicts. It's all about marketing and people wanting to belong to some rarefied club. i will gladly try a craft brewer's product, but when I detect a "slight hint of bullshit" about their marketing I will stay away. that's the contrarian in me.

joseph bennett

Aug 8, 2019, 10:11 pm Reply

I remember about a year ago the internet went into hysterics over the great, “is water wet debat”

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