The Hard Lives of Britain’s Synthetic Marijuana Addicts

By Brian Lemay 100 comments


Spice just hits you like a truck,
it just knocks you out. Whereas bud you just sit and chill. You know what? I wish I could go back to my bud. Because you know what,
Spice, it’s horrible. I woke up after the Spice,
with vomit all over my bed, and myself. I know a kid who died of it. Couldn’t get his heart beating more. It was beating too fast,
it just went and shook out. As the new government began
making moves to ban all legal highs, we headed to Manchester,
where synthetic drugs like Spice, and other brands like Vertex,
Pandora, and Insane Joker, are freely available to buy from news
agents and places known as head shops. Although manufacturers state on
the packets that they’re not fit for human consumption,
legal highs are used recreationally. And they make the press when
students overdose on them. Most people thought it was
a recreational drug, a party drug, something that you could,
perhaps, dip in and out of. But actually, nobody really knows
what they’re made of part and what structure they have and
how they impact on the body. Although students with a support
network tend to dip in and out of synthetic drugs. We wanted to meet a much more
vulnerable group of people who can suffer from the affects of
a real dependency on legal highs. All the clients that
are presenting here are using spice. It’s affecting the mental health,
it’s affecting the physical health, and it’s a massive, massive problem. Manchester has more rough sleepers
then anywhere else outside of London. Cuts to council services have left the city with 20% fewer emergency
beds than there were five years ago. And during that time, legal highs have become a crutch to many
of the people who now live on the streets. I use it myself, and I use it because it takes the pain away. It’s legal. What can I do? I can sit here now, there could be 20 officers around
me with guns and everything. As long as pull a bag of spice out and
start rolling it, I can roll it. Nothing that anybody can do. I pull a bag of weed out and
they’ll all be on me like a car bonnet. How might people go about trying to
get hold of it once you can’t go to a shop and buy it? There’s always gonna
be some match level drug. There’s already street dealers out there. Are you worried though that it
might start criminalizing people? Yes, yes I’ve seen some bad you
have got to look at this drug, it’s bringing heroine addicts, I know a
heroine addict that’s a Spice addict now. He takes Spice like he used to take
heroine every single day of the week. He doesn’t took to heroine now, so that heroine a class A drug and
the Spice is bringing him off that. What is in this stuff? It’s amazing. The Misuse of Drugs Act
controls substances on the basis of their structure. The banned cannabinoid in weed is THC. Synthetic cannabis like spice mimics
the effects of weed by replicating and slightly altering the chemical
that gets people high. Legal high manufacturers design
cannabinoids and constantly update the composition of their products,
so that they remain within the law. But, these experiments can leave
the users smoking a legal version of weed that can be a hundred times stronger. One of the few volunteer
organizations that caters to Manchester’s homeless
community is Lifeshare, a charity that looks after young people
seeking advice and accommodation. Where I’ve just come from
is everywhere… It’s everywhere… Yeah, it’s everywhere. People are making thousands
of pounds off that. In jail, yeah. And trust me I’ve seen
some kids in wheelchairs. It’s funny, yeah, but afterwards it’s not. So more people just die. Pretty much most of our
clients use the Spice. I think the main reason that it’s
being used quite a lot, is it’s cheap. People that used to smoke cannabis,
they’re spending ten pound on cannabis. And they’re getting two smokes out of it. They’re spending five
pound on a gram of spice. And it’s going a lot further and
it’s a lot stronger as well, I believe. What I’ve noticed when it comes
to Manchester is the number of rough sleepers there are. Most of our clients now
are homeless and will sleep here. Why is that? Well, realistically there’s
budget cuts to various services or whatever, and homelessness has been a major one. We need more shelters and
we need more hostels. Lifeshare is the first point of contact
for people living on the streets, and currently sees over 100 clients. A regular member of their
drop-in clinic is Titch. I’ve got a spliff there. Where do you sleep at night, Titch? Car park up Portland Street. Are you waiting for a hostel? When was the last time
you had a Spice hit? About half 10, 11 o’clock this morning. How are you feeling right now? Like I want to kill someone. I want to go back into Strangeways
(Prison) and do a 28 day detox. But that would be pointless. Why would it be pointless
going into Strangeways? Because there’s more Spice in there
than what’s out on the streets. [INAUDIBLE] You look like you’re about to roll a spliff. Yeah, [INAUDIBLE] I forgotten
a spliff this morning. That’s about 40 spliffs
right there in that one. I don’t want it, but I’m in pain. I’m in that much pain. Where does it hurt? My stomach, shooting pains down my leg, shooting pains up my spine. Pains in my neck and in my arm. Harmful if swallowed. May cause respiratory irritation. Do you want a glass of water to drink? Have you ever seen any other drug like this? This is supposed to be legal, but it has a sense of deterioration
that you don’t expect from crack. Crack cocaine, and then quickly, rapidly deteriorated,
over a few weeks of using it. I’ve gone from that to this. Can you remember the first
time you started Spice? In the summer seeing young people
begging that would have never normally begged before and
they’re going begging for Spice. Risking their accommodation and
everything, cuz they’re not going home to accommodation cuz they’re off their
faces on Spice in the car parks. How much Spice do you smoke? Six grams a day. Six grams a day?
– Yeah. And how much does that cost? It’s three for 20 pounds so
you are looking at about 30 pounds or 40 pounds a day. I’d rather it be illegal because, do you
know what yeah I’d rather blaze my bud. Look at me now yeah, right,
I’m rattling, right, my head’s all over, right,
and I can’t think straight. Now, if this was bud, don’t get me wrong,
I’d be sat here stressed, Judy’s seen me stressed when I’ve not had bud, but I’m not like this, I’m not rattling. You know what, it’s horrible. And it’s the same irritability that
you would associate with crack, but you’re actually sometimes now showing
physical withdrawal signs as well, which you usually associate with heroin. I mean some of the young people here
describe the heart palpitating and really, really going really fast. They just will not take on board that how detrimental it’s gonna be to their
mental health, their long-term well-being. How did it make you feel? The first time I had it?
– Yeah. It was actually Pandora’s box as well. Were you there? We can do that. I think. I don’t know! What are you doing with your legs? And I was just waving my legs,
laughing my ass off at every single thing. I don’t know. You had a spliff about half an hour ago now. How are you feeling now? I’m not as bad, a bit anxious but not too bad. I’m putting my full time into
getting off Spice, I know I can but I have to be away from
being surrounded by it. At the moment the town has
become a breeding ground for it. Everybody comes into town, they won’t
go home because they need to get Spice. It’s being in this
situation on the streets, while everybody else is doing it, that I
kind of find it hard to get away from it. Titch, do you see that your way out
of Spice, and being surrounded by Spice culture is by getting
a secure accommodation in a hostel? Yes, d’you know what? I’ve said this from day one. I will stop smoking Spice when
I get in a hostel, right? And the only reason, the reason is yeah,
is because of the bud. I’d love to smoke my bud after
this because I know yeah, my bud ain’t making me unfit,
it ain’t making me drop, it ain’t fucking my head up and that. Before meeting Tim, Johan realized that
legal highs like Spice were addictive. He’s only gone a few hours without smoking
it before showing signs of withdrawal. There’s the rattling going now. I wanted to find out from someone
whose job it is to get people off drugs, if the legal status of a particular
substance had any impact on whether people take it or not. There is a level of naivete
around thinking that by making legal highs illegal,
people will be less inclined to use them. If somebody is already in a situation of
relative chaos in their life in general, it would be unlikely that we would see
a significant impact in people using them. It’s not necessarily gonna positively
impact on the people who are using it, but it impacts on who’s in charge of the
supply and where the supply comes from. It’s a public health issue. And what we wouldn’t want to see is for the criminal aspect of that problem to be
prioritized over the public health aspect. I think all services providing
information, support, access for members of the public, we’ve had
significant financial cuts, I think, over the last five years. And that’s probably going to continue, so there’ll be a 25% reduction in
the overall spend on drugs and alcohol. He’s one of the biggest
Spice heads in town. I know two people who have died of it. At a city center soup kitchen, local health workers are dealing with
Spice casualties on a daily basis. The guy that we first
came across on the wall, he was completely out of it, unconscious. We’ve been talking to
lots of people about it. They say they’ve never seen a drug
have as massive effects as legal highs do on people. No. We’ve gone from having no problems with it to now we’re getting three or
four people every night. We’ve had no training on it, obviously,
when we did the training it wasn’t there, now we are starting to get training on
it because there’s so much out there, it’s so bad. Outlawing something doesn’t sort of
change people’s intention to do something. It doesn’t no, but it becomes
illegal more can be done about it. Same again, now I can smell it now. – Yeah, me too. And it doesn’t smell like weed,
does it? No.
It is so much chemically related, that nobody really knows what’s in it. It will knock you out and it will numb
your senses to the elements and stuff. This is why it’s becoming
a homeless phenomenon, it’s because it numbs your senses and it makes you dull and
it makes the elements not bother you. Later that night we went to find it. As we wandered the streets,
it was hard to ignore the irony and the fact that Spice was, to some degree,
a problem of the government’s own making. And there seemed to be a similarity
between Titch’s cycle of satisfying his own addiction and the government’s way of handling drugs. A sort of Whac-a-Mole tactic that
only serves as a temporary solution. As ministers debate the details of
the new psychoactive substances bill, while cutting addiction services and
housing support, only time will tell where the problem
might pop up again in the future.

100 Comments

BethJW xo

Oct 10, 2019, 7:25 pm Reply

the only thing the same about weed and spice is the look, stop fucking comparing the two

Em Rivera

Oct 10, 2019, 3:17 am Reply

Yall i quit this shit dec2012 . I was on a bad ride for 5 of the bullshit lay it down and make that shit from peru legal so we can quit substance abuse all together ..can i geta yeeeyee god bless all of u and keeep yalls heads up =)

Joshua Patrick

Oct 10, 2019, 3:53 am Reply

All I see in these videos is science destroying humanity and the natural world…

hea dobe

Oct 10, 2019, 1:34 pm Reply

I was in a military academy at 16 so i couldnt smoke weed. Came home for holiday.. and at this time k2 was like the newest thing, i tried it and nearly walked straight into an oncoming bus i was so out of it my friend literally saved my life by yanking me back to the sidewalk. Needless to say i Never tried that again

Jarrell SHaMaH

Oct 10, 2019, 9:56 pm Reply

I see this shit in Brooklyn ny. EVERYDAY! Killing ppl!!

nycjin816

Oct 10, 2019, 4:27 pm Reply

I remember in 2010 this shit came out in gas stations upstate when I was in a rehab. I was never a pot smoker but the ones that were loved this shit. then it exploded, became wayyyy stronger then you see people on the news acting like they're on dust. then the crackdown a few years ago. i used to go with a friend who was obsessed to 2 spots left that haven't been busted yet. both on myrtle ave in bed stuy and canarsie. as we're going down the stairs one was getting busted. I'd occasionally take a hit and be high for literally like 8 hours

Jonathan

Oct 10, 2019, 7:28 am Reply

Shit is sick…..and its an even shittier high than crack…gross

Chris Sanders

Oct 10, 2019, 6:51 pm Reply

Even across the pond they have a nice way of calling homeless people homeless… rough sleepers..

Mk3

Oct 10, 2019, 1:46 pm Reply

Why a lot of people throw up after smoking this?

Eugene Girod

Oct 10, 2019, 6:42 pm Reply

Whtf does this shit come from?! And how on hell can you buy it legally when weeds illegal, it doesn’t make any sense

sapphicsanvers

Oct 10, 2019, 4:25 am Reply

you have to have such a low iq to try this drug jesus christ

Dave Bayliss

Oct 10, 2019, 6:25 am Reply

Hahahahaha I could watch titch rattle all day , funny as fuck

TP – C0der

Oct 10, 2019, 1:44 pm Reply

the dude that smokes 6grams a day. Look at him guys dont think hes crazy. He is completely normal in the head , he knows hes fucked up but its just the drugs making him look like hes fucked. In his brain hes just like us and its so sad seeing that 🙁 whatever leme roll up my spice.

TheHardCore

Oct 10, 2019, 10:09 pm Reply

Spice is trash. Smoke some louis 13th OG!

Jose Lozano

Oct 10, 2019, 2:33 am Reply

2:46 crackhead saying

Sage Memes

Oct 10, 2019, 3:27 am Reply

That Vice dude is hot👀

Sage Memes

Oct 10, 2019, 3:28 am Reply

The dude lowkey looked like she was taking a shit🤷🏾‍♀️

Michael Parker

Oct 10, 2019, 6:41 pm Reply

check out the withdraws

Ghost Freak

Oct 10, 2019, 8:51 pm Reply

Shit people are getting drug addict and immigrants are taking advantage of it . Sad

Limerick’s Finest

Oct 10, 2019, 1:11 am Reply

That shyte isn't cannabis stop associating the two

John Argie Remolar

Oct 10, 2019, 8:49 pm Reply

How is this fcking legal haha

jaring

Oct 10, 2019, 1:40 am Reply

i remember the first time i thought i was trying weed. i was in my childrens home and one of the lads offered me a spliff i just turned round and said yeah at 8.30am turns out i went into school that morning thinking i was a fucking cat i ended up getting sent home and when i did get home i got told it was spice and for two days later i was constantly vomiting. deep down i think it was something more than spice i was on some mad 4 hour trip and i can tell u that shit aint right 🤣 dont ever touch it even if its your last resort!

Michael John

Oct 10, 2019, 12:59 pm Reply

Safe marijuana illegal
Dangerous chems legal.
SMH.

Tardis crew

Oct 10, 2019, 7:23 pm Reply

Mary Jane is my goddess spice is not sexy

ASAP BAD ASS

Oct 10, 2019, 11:45 pm Reply

My brothers smoked this shit every day.

Parisa

Oct 10, 2019, 1:18 am Reply

I love my home country the Netherlands where I can smoke GOOD weed on the streets and don't get crazy or ill

Faraz Ahmad

Oct 10, 2019, 6:26 am Reply

Yo la he probado y no es nada del otro mundo 🤷🏽‍♂️

Sky_stider223

Oct 10, 2019, 9:55 am Reply

God the withdrawals just look horrible…and people who never got depressed to the point of using drugs and got addicted can never even come close to comprehending what it’s like to have withdrawals I went though opiate/amphetamines withdrawals afew years ago and people just told me to quit cold turkey and saying it’s easy just do it! But I keep telling them “I’m trying my hardest! You don’t understand what it’s like!” But they say they do then compare it to hangovers or quitting smoking cigarettes lol so uneducated and kinda insulting thinking it’s that easy…but addiction is more mentally hard then anything…

Xyz Trâpzž

Oct 10, 2019, 12:11 pm Reply

Thus is plain stupid this is legal but weed isnt that is a joke the british goverment is shit.

erick navas

Oct 10, 2019, 3:57 pm Reply

Weed isnt an addiction like the whole world tries to assume 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Harry Harry

Oct 10, 2019, 3:58 pm Reply

Weed is for dickheads.
Spice is for utter spastics.

Coleton Shiver

Oct 10, 2019, 8:54 pm Reply

Can't believe I used to smoke this shit.

Isbrahim Vin Tuna

Oct 10, 2019, 1:04 pm Reply

These people speak worse English than pigeons.

Sick Boy

Oct 10, 2019, 7:24 pm Reply

Humanity=Garbage

Howzer The man

Oct 10, 2019, 7:56 am Reply

I love cannabis but even if i couldnt get my hands on cannabis id never touch spice. Im good friends with someone who owned a head shop and he used to order litre bottles of the shit they spray on any old plant material and that litre would do 10 kg's of plant matter.

sean Fletcher

Oct 10, 2019, 12:34 pm Reply

Anyone know the music used at the start of the video

Trevor Sabinson

Oct 10, 2019, 6:10 pm Reply

I seen people withdrawing off this shat. Reminds me of heroin addiction. People say legalize weed how about embracing these people and helping them cope with life’s challenges. Look up rat park. Addiction is a symptom of a larger problem- I needed compassion and love, not laws and consequences… (10 months without ANY substances- if I can do it so can you!)

David Gator

Oct 10, 2019, 7:06 am Reply

Don’t ever disrespect weed. Spice is cut with a lot of things.

finnf4

Oct 10, 2019, 2:01 pm Reply

Research chemicals are bad, mmkay?

Kyle Broussard

Oct 10, 2019, 2:52 pm Reply

I really don't get it though. Just smoke weed ya retards

slime

Oct 10, 2019, 4:13 pm Reply

3:27 💀💀

Samantha Morris

Oct 10, 2019, 5:45 pm Reply

I tried fake when it was legal in KY and all it did was make me sleep
Felt like shit really. I smoked weed regularly but have been off of everything for almost 4 years and don't crave it and the smell makes me get nautious

Van Kallahan

Oct 10, 2019, 8:27 pm Reply

I tried buying weed in a vietnamese chicken foot restaurant from locals who didnt speak english. They rolled me three joints and i took 2 puffs and thought i was smoking dope. 15 minutes later the locals were puking and laughing. Ended up swimming naked in the South china sea at night.
Heavy stuff – use with caution!

killer

Oct 10, 2019, 9:05 pm Reply

I was in care when everyone started the legal highs bs in their corner stores and head shops. Didn’t realize how bad it was till now, all my mates in care ruined their lives just running away to get it. One of my mates died from his drug use.

Nuno Sousa

Nov 11, 2019, 2:25 pm Reply

Empty heads.

Daniel Oliver

Nov 11, 2019, 3:37 pm Reply

I knew it was Manchester before I even pressed play

Concon r32

Nov 11, 2019, 12:51 am Reply

Scary shit that

skyler salzer

Nov 11, 2019, 9:20 am Reply

This ain’t no weed this is poison ☠️ homeboy is burnt the fuck out from head to toe
Low key my adhd make me feel that way

John Daniels

Nov 11, 2019, 11:31 pm Reply

Shit called white rabbit totally fucked me up beyond comprehension like 3 hits spice will turn you into a crackhead literally fuck your life up fast you can never get enough. Like to the point of picking it out the carpet and floorboard with tweezers. Sad looking back

MDMA 420

Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 pm Reply

8:06 austist boy

T-dot

Nov 11, 2019, 12:55 am Reply

I had a bowl of some shit called salvia way back in the day that was supposed to be a synthetic ‘weed’ that shit was nutty and not in a good way. Felt like a bad shrooms trip. I wish the UK would stop playing around and just legalise weed

Crystal Roderick

Nov 11, 2019, 2:07 am Reply

tried dat shit once.. made me sick as a fuckin dog….i'm good wit u, I'll stick to my weed….real trees

Tyler H

Nov 11, 2019, 8:31 am Reply

Man…glad I'm just a heroin addict

Roman Engelbrecht

Nov 11, 2019, 2:45 pm Reply

we got something called magic dragon or Nitro grass in South Africa its also a synthetic weed type substance and is legal but its potent as hell ive tried it twice in a joint mixed with weed and it was a near hallucinogenic high i saw mad colours like i was on the beach so all the beach umbrellas just looked awesome hahahaha

Roman Engelbrecht

Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 pm Reply

Omg Twitch is fucked up hahaha this shit is not for him

I kick life’s ass

Nov 11, 2019, 11:21 pm Reply

Just fucking legalise weed

Big Boi

Nov 11, 2019, 3:09 am Reply

Is This shit illegal in the us ?

OG Henderson

Nov 11, 2019, 8:38 am Reply

lol i smoked spice when i was 15 , never thought there would be an outbreak of it tho😂

Chris Townsend

Nov 11, 2019, 5:46 pm Reply

The problem is the lady doesn't know what she is doing or talking about!! I'm glad I live in America weed might not be legal but it's everywhere and easy cheap and I don't drink!!its sad people putting themselves through this because they can't get real weed!! Wtf English people???????? Damn it's not a hard decision just look !!! Open your eyes!!! Wtf???💯🔨🏈👍🏻🎼🍀💡❤️🙏🎄

LAGOSS PIK

Nov 11, 2019, 6:54 pm Reply

Ada juga ya ternyata sinte di sana aowkwkwkwk

biajouuu pikachuu

Nov 11, 2019, 9:06 am Reply

Man we will all be dead once we finally figure a way to consume all type of drugs knowing they are safe, currently we only have 1 which was made by mother nature, WEED. But hopefully our technology evolves and then create safe drugs to use.

weeds bros

Nov 11, 2019, 11:15 am Reply

What is up with this damn dude

Nick B

Nov 11, 2019, 9:59 pm Reply

If weed had been legal, this wouldn’t have ever happened.

Designer Themes

Nov 11, 2019, 6:26 am Reply

So what is spice?

Some type of tobacco sprayed with a chemical? is it a herb?

MrDynamite

Nov 11, 2019, 9:56 am Reply

I tried one of the synthetic weeds way back when they were just coming out, and I thought my sister's boyfriend was going to rape me lol, we've always been cool w each other and good friends, this kind of stuff just makes you crazy lmao. Also thought the TV was the devil

Lazielok_ch99

Nov 11, 2019, 11:22 am Reply

Spice boys 🤣 fucken jackass

Xan

Nov 11, 2019, 7:19 pm Reply

This is definitely NOT weed as weed would never do that to anyone

Recyclops

Nov 11, 2019, 6:17 am Reply

How is this shit synthetic weed? Nothing like it

Recyclops

Nov 11, 2019, 6:18 am Reply

So glad California legalized weed. Bud, wax, everything at the shop

Eric Müller

Nov 11, 2019, 10:15 am Reply

Min.7.00🙄🤓

Lee Southall

Nov 11, 2019, 11:23 am Reply

I was a herion addict for 12 years and I saw this spice shit have an affect on a lot of people!
It’s an evil drug, worse than the class A stuff like cocaine and crack and heroin it grabs people by the bollocks and don’t let go!
I’ve been clean for nearly two years now and am glad I don’t have to see people killing them selves with this shit anymore!!

Alex Defatte

Nov 11, 2019, 3:46 pm Reply

Legalize it ya bloody fukin retads!

Strickland Propane

Nov 11, 2019, 10:35 am Reply

I miss AM-2201.

Magnificent Bastard

Nov 11, 2019, 11:58 am Reply

Ahahahahha…… "That's about FORTY SPLIFFS right there" Holy fkin shit, at least get a reporter that knows something about what's going on… 😂😂😂…. Pull out a Gram of Coke.. "That about 10kg of Coke right there"

Gareth Beaton

Nov 11, 2019, 2:46 pm Reply

Truth is if pot was legal then no one woud of made this legal weed world wide

Nx Doyle

Nov 11, 2019, 12:25 pm Reply

When Vice ditches the vérité style in favour of a direct approach, the content is invariably better. There are way fewer downsides, for example, the so-called reporter doesn't butcher the pronunciation of 'cannabinoid'.

Nx Doyle

Nov 11, 2019, 12:48 pm Reply

All due respect to Tich, but 'accommodation before quitting' is not credible. It's a tacit admission that you're not prepared yet to go through detox and rehab.

The Daily Jasper

Nov 11, 2019, 6:55 pm Reply

2 years clean off spice in January will be 2 years and it was one of the worst drugs I ever touched in my life I'll never touch that shit again it will fucking destroy you because their people who don't get crazy from it or pass out standing up and it takes the addiction further u can't even eat or sleep without it and when you don't have it you get mean

yeayou zazoo

Nov 11, 2019, 7:32 am Reply

– Peter Tosh
"Legalize it"
Stop letting these fked up drugs fk society up.

Chris Goffe

Nov 11, 2019, 7:21 pm Reply

..thats killed people here in New Zealand ..magic mushrooms are safer they grow at my local bus stop but no one does that nowadays ..everyone is on meth

Bell’s Theorem

Nov 11, 2019, 1:35 am Reply

Legalize marijuana.

Denise Flick

Nov 11, 2019, 4:06 am Reply

Dude is acting so bad! Ray Charles could see that! I hope those people aren't believing him!

Brandon Bowdoin

Nov 11, 2019, 7:28 pm Reply

More reason, weed, needs to be legal everything.

joe biden

Nov 11, 2019, 9:19 pm Reply

I think those drug addicts need to find another way to communicate with people.

Vorce_ mdnt

Nov 11, 2019, 9:20 pm Reply

And this kids is why you don’t do drugs

Kurosawa_ 00

Nov 11, 2019, 12:28 am Reply

This shit is legal but the natural plant isn’t? I don’t understant why….

krzysiu.net

Nov 11, 2019, 1:44 am Reply

The problem of weed [MJ] vs. Spice-alike products (synthetic cannabinoids [SC]) is deeper than some popular comments indicate. 1) MJ contains many chemicals and it's almost impossible to check the long time risks. Also it's a dirty drug – it's like drilling a small hole using hammer or flushing a bucket of paint to paint a dot. SC uses selective chemicals – less parts of brain affected=less side effects 2) …unless substance is toxic (e.g. to brain) by itself and it happens more and more often because safest drugs were banned years ago and now most drugs are at least potentially neurotoxic because fluorine – first delegalizations made products more dangerous. 3) in 1 I'm saying it's safer, so why it's perceived as less safe? Many reasons, including a) if you buy weed you need some mate who will eventually explain how to handle it; with SC it's rarely the case; b) think of 3% beer and vodka. Does vodka kills? Well, if you'd drink it like a beer, then possibly. That's why you don't smoke it like MJ. c) statistical bias and rumors – there are urban legends known at least since 40 years, – adopted (from original LSD or PCP) to put modern SC in bad light. Of course everybody knows somebody who knows somebody who put kid to oven after LSD/PCP/SC/p.r. administration of MJ. d) early Spice-alike products were made by professionals, now every chav or gopnik can do it and sell it. 4) SC boost tolerance very quickly, so you need stronger products. Shops offer them, but when kids wanna buy something, they would probably get something that's average for people with incredible tolerance, but for newbies it might be too strong – i.e. lack of morality of producers (they don't change brand names when the ingredients change; they could use some code understood by users to indicate which chemical is there and how much of it) and silly work of governments which delegalized it without thinking that a small, mostly medial problem will become… well, tiny comparing to other drugs, but much bigger than it was.

MrJesusdoesntsave

Nov 11, 2019, 6:55 am Reply

What the fuck is "caniboid?" That's not a thing

Gainfz

Nov 11, 2019, 4:01 pm Reply

I’m smoking weed/Dab pen and I’m blitzed asf.
– I was crying to this because here in Cali we smoke top shelf product, and it’s nothing like crack. But this truly hurts me. It truly does.

chicken nugget

Nov 11, 2019, 11:01 pm Reply

this shit can actually kill you

ΞΞΞ ΘΘΘ

Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 am Reply

HOW CAN THIS BE LEGAL

Dan Statsun

Nov 11, 2019, 8:12 pm Reply

So sad to watch videos like this grew up in manchster and smoked spice for about 3 years n was homeless for 2 almost killed my aelf 3 times smoking and people can sit here n turn their nose up at these people but a spice addcition is so hard to deal with and a very unpredictable addcition and its easy to judge people who still smoke but when you could buy it nearly everyshop in each connor in manchster city center its hard to get away from and for the price it was always their… being homeless having no family no money spice feels like a good friend and a friend to help you forget whata going on in the real world!! Their needs to be more surpport for people that have trouble with this dirty stuff… to anyone who actully reads this and smokes its belive me i know its hard but that shit will end your life could just be half of spliff one day after all day of smoking… nasty stuff…

Rob

Nov 11, 2019, 6:07 am Reply

Once I had to get high so much that I sucked a dick for cocaine, oh shit I mean weed, yeah weed, or heroin, I forgot which one was it.

11thDan D

Nov 11, 2019, 8:53 am Reply

Is spice made with datura

Chris Townsend

Nov 11, 2019, 12:13 am Reply

I'm glad I live where I can get any awsome smoke cheap and grown right here!!!💯🔨👍🏻🎼🏈🍀💡❤️🙏

Chris Townsend

Nov 11, 2019, 12:15 am Reply

That's poison and you can get it here but I don't know anyone who fucks with it !! Everyone knows it's terrible crap 💩!!💯🔨🏈🎼👍🏻🍀💡❤️🙏

Paul

Nov 11, 2019, 3:10 am Reply

People would not be ODing on anything if government was not regulating things to the extent that they promote suffering and making the majority of us slaves that are only suppose to work till we die with very little enjoyment in life. I wish all of these control freaks felt the personal suffering and misery of all the people that their decisions make in their own lives and family and that they see that they are the cause of the suffering. Not only in this life but every life before and after their current life, so perhaps it might give them the incentive to act properly and do things that help society as oppose to causing harm to the majority of people in society. So that I would not have a child suffer the problems that I have in life, I decided it is best to not have children long as I am on this world, as what people call Hell is a far better place than here many times. Hades, Satan and many others are far more kinder to us than those in agencies that say they are acting on our best interests when they are clearly not.

I'm not saying people should be stoned, as that is a very bad feeling to me. It is very easy to get drugs to get stoned, just talk to any psychiatrist and they will prescribe them to you for depression and even you can many times get them for free. But the things that help people feel good about themselves and give them the mental power to enjoy life that is another story as those are over the last 90 year made illegal for anyone outside of a few select people as in the book Animal Farm some are more equal than others.

DOSKIIE

Nov 11, 2019, 4:00 am Reply

Lol I smoked a big joint of k2 one time, felt like I was about to die. Was very easy not to ever smoke it again.

Paul

Nov 11, 2019, 4:01 am Reply

These people are using spice to take care of their problems that have been caused by the banking cartels that have done more damage than the drug cartels to the people of the world by causing 2 world wars and doing things to start a 3rd world war, have caused the destruction of the lives of many around the world. This using such drugs is only seen as a problem because they are self medicating. They would not be dong it if they had a life that they could look forward to everyday. The best way to solve such drug problems is to remove the laws and change regulations that make it so difficult for people to have a home of their own and be able to support themselves, have a pet, some hobbies, and enjoyment of life. People would not be addicted if they did not have PTSD caused by government and policing practices not only in England but in most countries around the world.

Government regulations are what created the opportunity for Al Capone, and all of the other organized crime figures, and all of the drug cartels. When people are not able to solve their problems with surviving in this world legally because of the obstacles and oppression that has been created by businesses, corporations and governments, they will either turn to something illegal or end their life. That is because they have no other option, and far too many are blind to this fact.

Connoisseur Of Cars & Tig Ol Bitties

Nov 11, 2019, 8:27 am Reply

If you live in the hood while on probation you’ll remember smoking scooby snacks

Leave a Reply